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Interview with Benicia City Council Member Terry Scott

Questions by Stephen Golub… beginning with, “If reelected to the Benicia Council…”

By Stephen Golub, Benicia resident and author, “Benicia and Beyond” column in the Benicia Herald, July 26, 2026

This past week, City Council Member Terry Scott kindly took the time for an interview regarding his background, Benicia’s challenges / opportunities and (having first been elected in 2022) his recently launched campaign for reelection this November. Here are my questions and his thoughts for Part One of the interview. Part Two will appear next Sunday.

  1. If reelected to the Council, what will your priorities be?

My priorities will continue to stay the same that have guided my first term: fiscal responsibility, smart economic development and housing, environmental protection, caring for all our residents, transparent government, and regional leadership. I would add, we must manage three massive priorities in parallel: managing Benicia’s future by reimaging of the Valero site, Rose Estates, Yuba and other housing developments, while building revenue streams to maintain the quality of life that we all expect while enhancing our Business Industrial Park to face forward.

  1. Where did you grow up?

Cleveland, Ohio. Went off to college. Then said goodbye to Cleveland and moved to Florida to play soccer and, in an interesting twist of irony, my first job was as a reporter covering West Palm Beach City Hall for the Palm Beach Post & Times. Bored with City Hall intrigue, I founded my own City Magazine, sold it, headed back to Cleveland to write the Great American novel. Met my wife Randi on a forced blind date. Started writing and marketing for a bunch of ad agencies. Did a futurist project for M&M Mars which lead me to a toy company which was bought by Hasbro and they transferred me to Napa to manage lots of toy divisions. Then from Napa to Pawtucket, RI to head up the whole shebang of Hasbro’s internationally based Creative Services teams. Whew! I’m exhausted talking through that.

  1. How did you end up in Benicia?

Star Wars, Transformers, Indiana Jones brought me here.  Believe it or not. I was working at Hasbro and spending a lot of time at Industrial Light & Magic, working on George Lucas films, which meant weeks at a time up at Skywalker Ranch. In another twist of irony, my oldest son ended up staying in California and renting an apartment above Iron Horse Furniture on First St. which used to be in what is now Lucca’s. So we were in this area a lot to visit him, and we got to know Benicia well. We liked Benicia so much we bought a condo and stayed there instead of a hotel during my trips out west. When I retired from Hasbro we simply landed here, and never looked back.

  1. How have you spent most of your professional career?

Most of my career was in the toy industry, mentoring and bringing out the best in others. When I retired I learned my staff called me ‘Johnny Appleseed’: I’d plant ideas and let my teams run with them. I think toys kept me from ever aging past seven — that childlike wonderment, that sense there’s nothing you can’t do, has stayed with me. I addition I’ve live by the mantra: Did you make a difference today? It was scribbled on my office walls in every job I’ve held. At the end of the day, my career has been about managing lots of people; managing real, significant budgets; and delivering on the promise of getting the job done right.

  1. How did you first become interested in running for the Benicia City Council?

I was appointed to the city’s Arts and Culture Commission in 2015 , thinking it would be fun to work on developing public art, put up murals and be part of projects like Neptune’s Daughter. And I did. But I quickly learned that the real decisions, you know, the ones that shaped the city were happening up a few levels  at the planning level and at City Council. Around the same time, I looked at my own toolkit: years as a futurist, a marketer, someone who’d run a major division at Hasbro — and thought, that’s useful here. I ran in 2020 against Tom Campbell, which, if you know Tom, you know is no small task. I lost that one. I ran again and became a council member in 2022. Honestly, it was as much my neighbors and friends nudging me saying: “you should be doing this” as it was my own ambition.

  1. What accomplishments are you proudest of regarding your time on the Council?

That’s a hard one to narrow down, because a lot of what I’m proudest of isn’t a single vote — it’s being the person on the other end of the phone, email or whatever when someone in this community has a problem. But you want specifics: I’m proud of how we exhibited great fiscal responsibility and balanced the city’s budget for the first time in six years. That’s no small feat. And, we’re moving towards more fiscal responsibility by employing Priority Based Budgeting methods. I’m proud of passing Measures A, B, and F. And honestly, I’m proud that people keep asking me, “Are you running again?” — because it tells me this council hasn’t been kicking the can down the road, and people have noticed.

  1. Are there any particular lessons you’ve learned from your City Council experience, and/or aspects of the work you more fully appreciate now as opposed to when you first started?

First, city government moves at glacial speed. Coming from a business I’m used to moving fast and deciding fast. Coming into city government felt like hitting a wall. By design, the gears of government turn slowly and that was a hard adjustment.

Second, council is a policy-making body, not an operations team. We set direction by telling staff what outcomes we desire. We let the professionals build the solution. It’s a jigsaw puzzle, and our job is to guide the process, not assemble every piece.

Finally, I appreciate now just how much the city is interwoven into the fabric of our lives: public safety, water, sewer, parks, roads, every facet of daily life for residents, businesses, and visitors. It’s a bigger responsibility than I understood when I started, and honestly, it can be overwhelming.

  1. Benicia faces a considerable budget gap due to the Valero Refinery ceasing operations (except as a temporary fuel storage depot) and the resulting loss of city revenue. What do you see as the most promising current and potential steps to close that gap?

We must look at it as a Rubik’s Cube: many sides. Many colors. Turn one side and everything changes.

We’re pursuing several strategies at once. We’re working with the Air District on a Catalyst Grant for roughly $40 million, easing pressure on staff capacity for planning work. We’re working with the state for compensation of the site’s use as a marine fuel terminal. We’re asking voters to pass Measure X, which includes a tax on refined gasoline stored and passed through Valero infrastructure.

We’ve consolidated departments, looked at staffing levels, and we must streamline planning and permitting to make the city easier to build in.

We must capture the ensuing labor and economic activity from the Valero dismantling and remediation. Typically, 100’s of temporary workers are on-site for years during dismantling and remediation. Benicia must plan to benefit from that activity.

Concurrently, we must stimulate growth in the industrial park, create a downtown district plan designed for more retail instead of commercial space, add parking, support more destination events. We should reinvent our pier/ spit for retail use. Welcome new restaurants and understand our generational shift from older residents to younger residents who are steadily growing our property tax base.


Benicia resident and author Stephen Golub, A Promised Land

Stephen Golub writes about democracy and politics, both in America and abroad, at A Promised Land: America as a Developing Country.

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Terry Scott Announces Bid for Re-Election to Benicia City Council

“Promises made, promises delivered.” Scott points to a balanced budget, regional leadership, and a six-point vision to guide Benicia through its transition beyond Valero’s exit.

Via email from Terry Scott, July 11, 2026

Benicia, CA:   Benicia City Councilmember Terry Scott today announced he is running for re-election to the Benicia City Council, asking voters to renew the mandate that has guided his first term: fiscal discipline, regional leadership, and a steady hand for a city facing one of the most consequential transitions in its history.

“I love this city. I have served it with everything I have, and I am proud of what we have accomplished together,” Scott said in announcing his campaign. “But loving this City means seeing it clearly, including both the challenges and the extraordinary opportunities that lie ahead of us.”

Scott’s announcement comes as Benicia works through the closure of the Valero refinery and the drive to identify and deliver future alternative revenue streams. He has cast the moment as both a fiscal challenge and a once-in-a-generation opportunity to reimagine the refinery site, revitalize the waterfront, strengthen downtown, and attract the industries and employers of the future.

“We stand at an inflection point between evolution and revolution in shaping our community’s future,” Scott said. “We will either grow and prosper, or we will struggle under the weight of what we’ve lost with Valero’s departure.”

“There is a natural evolution already underway in our City.  People want to call Benicia home. They want our quality of life.  We are already seeing a housing transition with young families moving in and businesses that cater to them. But there is also a revolution happening with several housing and mixed use developments in planning including a senior center and the reimagining of the Valero Site and significant changes in the ownership and types of technology driven companies in the Industrial Park.

“Our task will be to find the balance that delivers the change needed to insure the quality of life our residents and businesses demand,” he suggested.

A Record of Results

Scott points to a first term defined by hard fiscal choices and measurable outcomes. Under his leadership on the Council’s finance work, the city balanced its budget, reorganized and consolidated departments, optimized staffing expenditures, found new purchasing efficiencies, and shifted to priority-based budgeting while also identifying and generating new revenue streams and advancing air quality and safety measures for residents living closest to industrial operations.

“The fiscal work is not finished, but the foundation we have built together makes us ready to seize what comes next,” Scott said. “Seizing that moment requires experienced fiscal leadership, clear vision, and proven results which is exactly why I’m running for re-election.”

A Six-Point Vision: Promises Made, Promises Delivered

Scott’s re-election platform is built around six connected priorities, each grounded in work already underway during his first term:

  • Getting Our Finances Right: Develop an effective plan to close an estimated $7 million annual revenue gap left by Valero’s closure through disciplined budgeting, priority-based spending, new business recruitment, waterfront activation, and aggressive pursuit of grant funding.
  • A City Government That Works for You: Streamlining permitting and making smarter use of technology to make City Hall more responsive to residents and businesses.
  • Putting Air District Settlement Money to Work for Benicia: Ensuring the $82 million Valero penalty settlement, administered by the Bay Area Air District, delivers real relief to residents through home energy assistance, cleaner air at schools, job training, health investments for those living closest to the refinery, and meaningful improvements to the City’s long-term planning.
  • Showing Up Regionally So Benicia Doesn’t Get Left Behind: Leveraging Scott’s strong relationships at the county, regional, and state levels, including an unprecedented three terms as Chair of SolTrans and service on four Solano Transportation Authority committees, to ensure Benicia receives its fair share of transportation, housing, and economic development funding.
  • Taking Care of Our Neighbors: Protecting services for seniors, families facing food, housing, and financial insecurity, and vulnerable residents who have fallen through the cracks, ensuring that compassion is never the first thing cut from the budget.
  • Building Benicia for Future Generations: Investing in parks and playgrounds, partnering with the Benicia Unified School District, and creating safe streets and real career opportunities so young families can put down roots and build their future here.

About Terry Scott

Terry Scott is a 14-year Benicia resident, businessman, futurist, and philanthropist who serves on the Benicia City Council and previously served as Vice Mayor. Before his election to the Council, he co-founded the Benicia Community Foundation, served as its Executive Director, and chaired the Benicia Arts and Culture Commission for six years, as well as the Benicia Public Art Committee.

Scott’s professional career includes more than 20 years at Hasbro, Inc., where he served as Senior Vice President and Global Head of Brand Creative Services, leading an international team of more than 700 employees and overseeing a $1.7 billion annual budget. He also founded Hasbro’s Cake Mix Studios, which contributed to several major motion picture projects. He earned a B.S. from Kent State University and completed the Executive Studies Program at Dartmouth College’s Tuck School of Business.

Scott currently serves on the City’s Tax Oversight Commission, CAP/Valero Advisory Panel, and Tula Sister City Program, and previously served on the CURE Commission and the WETA Ferry 2050 Visioning Team. Regionally, he has been elected to three terms as Chair of SolTrans and serves on multiple Solano Transportation Authority committees.

Committed to serving his community, Scott volunteers weekly serving meals and helps lead local food collection and delivery efforts for neighbors in need. He and his wife, Randi, a forensic archaeologist and Deputy Director of the national Forensic Archaeology Recovery organization, will celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary this September.

Looking Ahead

“I have the experience as Vice Mayor and Councilmember, the relationships, and the vision to help lead Benicia through this transition,” Scott said. “I know how regional government works. I know how to build coalitions, secure grants, negotiate with developers, and maintain fiscal discipline, all while staying true to the values that make Benicia worth fighting for.”

Scott is asking Benicia voters for their support, their volunteer time, and their vote as the campaign gets underway. “Together, we’ll make sure Benicia’s best days are still ahead,” he said.

To learn more, donate, volunteer, request a yard sign, or stay connected with the campaign, visit TerryScott2026.com or email terryscottforbenicia@gmail.com.

Stephen Golub: Interview with Benicia City Council Member Kari Birdseye

I was born in Oakland, CA, delivered into this world by the same doctor who delivered both my mom and dad…

By Stephen Golub, Benicia resident and author, “Benicia and Beyond” column in the Benicia Herald, May 31, 2026

Benicia City Council Member Kari Birdseye.

This past week, City Council Member Kari Birdseye kindly took the time for an interview regarding her background and Benicia’s challenges/opportunities. Here it is:

  1. Where did you grow up?
    I was born in Oakland, CA, delivered into this world by the same doctor who delivered both my mom and dad. I’ve always had family in the Bay Area but my most formative years were spent in the Sierra foothills. I graduated from San Francisco State University after transferring from Sierra Community College. I was a country mouse relocating to the Big City and I’ve been in love with San Francisco and the Bay Area ever since.
  2. How did you end up in Benicia?
    After eleven years in Atlanta, working for CNN, it was time to return to my home state. I landed my dream job as Director of Communications for the Wine Institute with an office in San Francisco and our young family was looking for a new hometown that was family friendly with good schools, affordable and someplace easy to commute into the city. Benicia fit that bill perfectly.
  3. Except for a few minor benefits, being a member of the Benicia City Council is essentially a volunteer position. What is your regular job?
    I have worked for Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC.org) for almost nine years now, where I am Director of Regional Media and Public Affairs. I love my “paycheck” job because I work on environmental issues with super smart attorneys, scientists, and policy experts every day.
  4. What made you first get interested in running for the Benicia City Council?
    I have been a serial volunteer since my kids were young, pitching in for Matthew Turner PTA, Benicia Stingrays Swim Team and more than a decade as a traveling soccer mom. When the kids grew older, I started volunteering for the City, first as a member of the Human Services Board, and then the Planning Commission for eight years. Once you understand how the City runs on volunteers, it gives you such pride in your community. I didn’t see myself as an elected official until friends and acquaintances started asking me if I would be interested in running. There’s an adage that says women require so much more encouragement to run for office than men do. That encouragement kept coming and I finally put together a team of friends and encouragers who helped me run in 2018 and then again in 2022.
  5. What accomplishments are you proudest of regarding your time on the City Council?
    I am proud of the work we have accomplished during the last four years. We have made so many tough decisions, especially the tax initiatives. No one wants new taxes, including me, but our City was spending more money than we were taking in for decades. Many elected officials fear the tough stuff because they are afraid of ruining their chances of re-election. Terry Scott and I have governed based on what’s best for our community, not what’s popular and will get us re-elected. We are just now starting to reap the benefits of Measure F, the citizens’ initiative to raise revenue earmarked exclusively for repairing city streets, potholes, and sidewalks. The five-year road improvement plan starts this summer and that’s something to smile about. Right now, I’m proud of the work we are doing to ensure that city services remain the same during our transition away from the refinery revenue. I am hopeful that we’ll see some of the Air District grant funding, as well as so many other options we are exploring now.
  6. Perhaps the greatest challenges and opportunities for Benicia at this time flow from the idling of the Valero Refinery and the property’s eventual conversion to what will likely be mixed-use development (e.g., residential, commercial and light industrial).What directions would you like to see such development take?
    I look forward to a transparent, community-inclusive process of figuring out what’s going to take place on those 900 acres. This is an opportunity to redefine Benicia and diversify our local economy. We can build more houses, to accommodate new families of various income levels. There will be many ways for our community to contribute to the redevelopment process. Valero did us a solid when they partnered with the Signature Development Group, a local developer with a strong track record of quality projects throughout the Bay Area and elsewhere. Council members, including myself, are regularly meeting with one of the principals at Signature and so far, we like what we are hearing. They recently submitted a pre-application and community member feedback is encouraged. For more information visit www.MoveBeniciaForward.com and let them know what you think.
  7. What role is the state playing regarding the conversion? What role would you like to see it play?
    For decades, bills have been introduced to help communities transition away from fossil fuels, especially refinery towns. Very few of these bills have been passed into law and we are experiencing the lack of planning for the impacts of California transitioning to a greener economy. The state of New York has a regulation that pays refinery towns, when their industrial partners close, to bridge the economic gap left by the closure. We are hoping that our state leadership will assist Benicia in bridging that gap, especially as the refinery remains offline but intact, during the global oil supply crisis.
  8. One long-term problem facing Benicia, particularly as a partly waterfront community, is climate change. What can we do to try to adapt to rising waters and other effects of climate change?
    Luckily, our state leaders HAVE passed a law, SB 272, that helps communities plan for sea level rise. Benicia is engaged in a county-wide effort called the Solano Bayshore Resiliency Project (www.bayshoreresiliency.org). They hold community meetings quarterly to provide updates on their plans and receive community feedback along the way. I was honored to give opening remarks at their last meeting in May and I’m proud of the work our Benicia planning staff is doing on that project.
  9. Are there any other thoughts you’d like to share?
    I’d like to thank the many Benicians who have reached out to me as an elected official. Solving problems, improving how the City serves our community, and meeting new people is my favorite part of being a City Council member. While the online community isn’t always as generous, the people I meet around town, on the Bocce Ball courts, and at our meetings at City Hall are kind, curious and care about Benicia just as much as I do. Together, we’ll get through this transition and be even stronger because of it. I’m so hopeful for what Benicia will become in the coming decades. Stay tuned for re-election news soon. Benicia deserves experienced leaders for the next four years. 😉

[Note from Steve Golub: After reading lots of comments from within and beyond Benicia, and given that Xavier Becerra and Tom Steyer are tied in the polls, I’m supporting Steyer. He’s had some troubling investments in his fairly distant past and  his lack of governmental experience is a negative. But on balance I like his environmental and other positions, as well as  the energy he’s bringing to the campaign and hopefully the job.

In contrast, I’m extremely disappointed with Becerra’s ties to Chevron – nearly $40,000 in donations to him from the company this year, and a whopping $500,000 to a pro-Becerra PAC, also this year. I value his experience, but I find those ties to Chevron and other vested interests disqualifying. Steyer would be far better for the state as a whole and Benicia in particular.]

[Note from Steve Golub: If you haven’t done so yet, please explore the new Benicia-focused online newsletter, The Benicia Bridge (the-benicia-bridge.ghost.io). Launched this past January by two  award-winning Benicians, the site is providing thoughtful, thorough coverage of a growing array of Benicia issues, ranging from Valero’s closure to street repair to our deep water port to a community playground.]


Benicia resident and author Stephen Golub, A Promised Land

Stephen Golub writes about democracy and politics, both in America and abroad, at A Promised Land: America as a Developing Country.

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KQED: Benicia Wants to Be a Model for Life After a Refinery. Can It?

A mural depicts downtown Benicia in the city on May 8, 2025. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)

KQED NEWS, By Ericka Cruz Guevarra, Julie Small, Jessica Kariisa, Alan Montecillo, May 20, 2026

Local leaders hope Benicia can be a leading example for how cities transition away from the fossil fuel industry. But with tight city budgets and a global fuel crisis, that’s much easier said than done.

Valero’s Benicia oil refinery employed hundreds of people and contributed millions in taxes to the local government for decades. Now, with the refinery on its way out, local leaders hope Benicia can be a leading example for how cities transition away from the fossil fuel industry. But with tight city budgets and a global fuel crisis, that’s much easier said than done.

Episode Transcript

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Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:01:00] I’m Ericka Cruz Guevara and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. The city of Benicia has been thinking a lot about its future lately. With fewer than 30,000 residents, this 15.7-square-mile town along the Carquinez Strait has been shaped for decades by the Valero oil refinery, which propped up the local economy, employed hundreds of workers and contributed taxes that paid roughly 10% of the city’s budget. But last month, Valero officially stopped refining crude oil in Benicia. Now, city leaders hope Benicia can be the shining example of a so-called just transition, away from fossil fuels to renewable energy.

Mario Giuliani: [00:01:59] There are eight other communities in California that are home to a refinery, and it’s only a matter of when those communities are gonna have to go through what Benicia’s going through.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:02:12] Today, how Benicia is planning for a future without a refinery and why it’s easier said than done.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:02:26] So Julie, as I understand it, some people have referred to Benicia as a potential poster child for what a quote unquote just transition could look like. First, what is a just transition for those who don’t know what that is? And when did you first hear that in reference to Benicia?

Julie Small: [00:02:49] There’s a lot of definitions for just transition.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:02:52] Julie Small is a reporter for KQED.

Julie Small: [00:02:55] In this case, a just transition is a city moving off its reliance on a fossil fuel industry in such a way that increases the healthiness of the community and the overall standard of living for the community. And it does so in such way that the economy is sustained and diversified and reinvested into clean renewable energies and industries. The first time I heard that term being applied to Benicia was at this February town hall meeting. A hundred people packed into the city library to hear from the city manager, Mario Giuliani.

Mario Giuliani: [00:03:43] We have a great responsibility and honor to be the model community on how we transition

Julie Small: [00:03:52] He told them, you know, this is the plan for how we’re gonna make up for Valero’s departure. We are going to become that poster child for a just transition.

Mario Giuliani: [00:04:02] How do you protect a community that is home to a refinery? And so you don’t decimate that community, but you allow them to springboard to something else. And I think that we’re well positioned to kind of write that playbook

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:04:19] Big words there from the city manager. And also I feel like a really big task, right? Because for context, Benicia’s, as I understand it, entire local economy and city budget relies very heavily on Valero, right? 

Julie Small: [00:04:37] I mean, we’re talking about 10% of the tax revenue that the city collects comes from the Valero refinery. And then there’s all the other industries in the area that build parts or provide services to the refineries. It’s also all the people in town, the restaurants, services leaning heavily on that income.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:05:02] Can you actually remind us, Julie, why Valero is leaving Benicia in the first place?

Julie Small: [00:05:08] The company says it’s leaving because demand for fossil fuel in California is declining, you know, with the rise of renewables and we’re, you know phasing out fossil fuel cars. We’re switching to electrical vehicles. At the same time, regulations on the oil industry are increasing in California as we’re trying to get a handle on controlling emissions and also controlling gas prices. Valero’s CEO has publicly complained about some recent bills that were passed in response to gas price spikes that would have penalized oil companies if they make excessive profits. You know, it’s important to emphasize that although Valero says that’s why they’re leaving, it is part of a trend we’re seeing across the country. Refineries are closing everywhere, so it’s not just unique to California, it not just because we have all these regulations. It’s that these are huge multinational global conglomerates that are maximizing their profit. If they can move their operations overseas where the labor’s cheaper and they have more demand, they’re gonna do it.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:06:22] As I guess Benicia’s preparing for Valero to leave, I imagine there’s been a lot of thinking and talking about what the city would look like without it. So what could a just transition look like in a town like Benicia?

Julie Small: [00:06:39] Well, they definitely want Venetia to be a cleaner town. They don’t want to have new industries come in that are polluting. So they’re looking to get away from this cycle of having to deal with emissions over decades and high asthma rates and high breast cancer rates. So looking for industries that, one, will diversify the economy, so they’re not so dependent on one big company, but also We’ll change the focus. We’ll be actually contributing to California’s goals to become carbon neutral.

Kari Bridseye: [00:07:12] We’re in a very precarious moment right now, but I’m filled with hope because of what we have here.

Julie Small: [00:07:20] I talked to Kari Birdseye, city council member at Benicia, and she’s actually by trade an environmental scientist.

Kari Bridseye: [00:07:28] Anybody that knows me knows that I always talk about the opportunity for the Port of Benicia being involved in standing up the offshore wind industry in California.

Julie Small: [00:07:41] So she’s really excited about the fact that the port in Benicia that is currently used by Valero to export pet coke, which is a byproduct of refining and polluting substance, using that instead as a place where you could manufacture and export parts for the nascent offshore wind industry in California.

Kari Bridseye: [00:08:05] And to me, that’s the perfect scenario for a just transition away from fossil fuels. Let’s be part of the solution instead of the problem.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:08:16] There’s also this question in the city about what to do with the land that the refinery is on as well, right? I mean, it covers like a huge swath of the city.

Julie Small: [00:08:27] Yeah, 900 acres of prime land right there overlooking the Carquinez Strait. It’s beautiful area. It is going to take a while before that land is usable. There’s a buffer zone around the refinery, it’s about 500 acres, that they’re hoping could be redeveloped sooner because it’s not as contaminated as the refineries site itself. They’d like to see that become, you know, housing or businesses that are catering to the local economy. Valero has actually hired a company to repurpose the land, redevelop the land for them. Those proposals are coming in the fall, so we don’t know exactly what that’s gonna be, but there’s a lot you could do with that land. And council member Kari Birdseye talks about this.

Kari Bridseye: [00:09:23] Centrally located, we have two interstates, a rail line, a port. We have so much potential here and it’s my vision to have a very diverse set of businesses and developers come in and be part of our community on the 900 acres that Valero owns right now.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:09:53] Coming up, why Valero’s departure from Benicia is more complicated than it sounds. Stay with us.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:11:07] It does seem like there is a lot of planning and daydreaming about what that future could look like in Benicia. So when exactly is the Valero refinery closing?

Julie Small: [00:11:20] That’s unclear at this moment. They’ve stopped refining. There’s nothing coming out of those stacks. But because of the global fuel crisis and California’s own problem of tightening supply between Valero and the Phillips 66 refinery in Southern California that closed last year, California lost 20% of the fuel that’s refined in the state. So California is looking to make that up. As soon as Valero said they were gonna leave, Governor Newsom, the California Energy Commission did everything they could to get Valero to stay. They couldn’t convince them to keep refining, but they did get them to agree to use their facilities to import refined fuels, store it, and then disperse it, using their pipes to get it to other parts of the state. In a community meeting, the Valero refinery manager said they thinks they probably won’t be there longer than two years, but that was like the only indication of a timeframe.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:12:33] It sounds like parts of the refinery are still being used because of the fact that we still, as a state and a country and I guess a world, still rely very heavily on oil and gas and that this is sort of being also pushed by this global fuel crisis that you’re just talking about. But what does that mean for Benicia? What does that means for the city’s ability to really plan for its future? 

Julie Small: [00:13:03] It makes it very difficult for them to plan. I mean, that’s all they can do at this point is say, well, let’s start planning. Let’s get investors in here. Let’s clean it up. There’s things they can now, like trying to figure out how much it’s gonna cost to clean it. But it really delays their ability to move forward with redevelopment, which is a big part of their financial plan. Having Valero stay in this capacity where they’re not refining. They’re not going to be paying the kind of taxes they were. They’re going to pay some small. So they’re not gonna be offering the benefit they used to, but they’re also gonna be kind of preventing the city from moving forward. And people there are understandably very concerned about that.

Christina Gilpin Hayes: [00:13:50] You know, it’s a catch-22. We might be better off, you know, environmentally, but not so much better off fiscally.

Julie Small: [00:13:57] And I talked to Christina Gilpin Hayes, she’s a resident, but she also serves on the city’s planning commission. She wasn’t like effusive, some people were really excited that Valera was leaving. She wasn’t one of those people. She’s like, look, we knew this was coming. And unfortunately, by them staying on like this, it really hamstrings the city.

Christina Gilpin Hayes: [00:14:17] It just prolongs what we need to happen, you know, either go or don’t, but if you continue to use it as a storage facility, it eliminates the ability for the city to move forward.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:14:34] That’s not even to mention that all of this redevelopment will require a lot of money, I imagine. And we talked at the top about how California more broadly is sort of leading the way and transitioning away from oil and gas and that Benicia isn’t the first city to even try and do it, but it still seems like it’s easier said than done. So what help does exist for cities that are making this transition, Julie?

Julie Small: [00:15:07] Well, one thing that the state has done, we’ll start with the positives, is that they have created this displaced oil and gas worker fund, which basically helps these workers that are being laid off at Valero transition into jobs that match their skill, their expertise, and also offer comparable wages in other industries. They’re also offering $25,000 grants to small businesses affected by the closure of Valero. That’s kind of what’s at the state level. Locally, there’s a lot more. One of the big things that Benicia is hoping to lean on is the Bay Area Air District. Our air regulator has started a new program. It’s taking fines against polluters like Valero and reinvesting those fines back into communities that were affected by emissions. They find Valero 82 million in 2024 for over a decade of excess emissions. And they’re making… 60 million of that available to Benicia and surrounding communities. Benicia’s not sure how much of that money they’re going to get awarded and they won’t know until the fall but they’re hoping to use that money to keep the city government afloat and keep services for the community consistent so that they can handle this transition and they’re pretty confident they’re gonna get a lot of support from the Air District.

[00:16:29] Is it enough for cities and towns like Benicia? Like, how do Benicia residents and officials feel about the support that’s coming from the state and air regulators?

Julie Small: [00:16:40] I think they feel pretty positive about what’s coming from the air regulators. At the state level, you know, they could use a lot more support.

Josh Sonnenfeld: [00:16:49] There’s a lot more that we can and should be doing at the same time.

Julie Small: [00:16:52] I talked to Josh Sonnenfeld with the UC Berkeley Labor Center, and he says most of the emphasis has been on how to show up the fuel supply and not nearly enough on how do we help these refinery towns actually transition.

Josh Sonnenfeld: [00:17:09] For example, California is one of the biggest markets for clean energy products, right? Whether that’s solar panels, EVs, heat pumps. And we have an opportunity to actually build these products in California as well. And so how can we make sure that the inequities of the past century of putting low-income housing and people of color and immigrants next to refineries. That we’re actually undoing some of that damage with the new economy that we are trying to build.

Julie Small: [00:17:41] He says, you know, the state should be doing both. They should be making sure that the fuel supply stays stable, but they could also be helping refinery towns by establishing a state office to facilitate and guide economic transitions, like which other states have done. And also he cited New York State, for example, created something called a tax revenue stabilization fund. It’s basically cash that the state provides to a refinery town to cope with the sudden drop and tax revenues.

Josh Sonnenfeld: [00:18:11] There is opportunity for us to develop something similar in California. But the key is, do it in a way where we’re really, we really need the feedback of local communities about how they wanna transition their economy.

Julie Small: [00:18:24] From my vantage point, I tried to find out what concretely they’re doing and I got just a lot of word salad. But, you know, other people in Benicia feel like they’re more involved in sort of the backroom discussions, feel that the state is with the town and will be helping more going forward.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:18:46] Well, what do you think, Julie, it will take for Benicia to, in fact, become the poster child of a just transition?

Julie Small: [00:18:55] It will take Valero’s departure, the final departure of Valero so that that land can be redeveloped. I really think that that’s the key to their future. I think it’s going to take more support from the state for displaced workers. And also just like Benicia on its own cannot create a new green economy. There’s a lot of effort regionally to create like these green economic zones, manufacturing zones for the green industry. It’s going take programs like that to provide a new identity for Benicia, a new economy. It takes ten years to decontaminate. Refinery site, according to state officials, you know, whose job is it is to do that. And that’s like probably a conservative number.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:19:44] What’s your sense of how city leaders are feeling in Benicia? You think they’re hopeful about their future?

Julie Small: [00:19:51] They are hopeful. I mean, it’s a really great community and it’s really politically active community. I mean in 2016, Valero wanted to bring in oil by rail and that really galvanized people. You know, I left that town hall feeling like a lot of other people probably did, which was like, yes, they can do it. I’ve since become a little more like, wait a minute, you know, they’re relying on a lot of aspects here that are tenuous. But they’re very driven and they have a lot of know-how and a lot chutzpah. Well, you have eight other refinery towns that are gonna be facing this, and having a blueprint that works is gonna make a big difference for them.

Ericka Cruz Guevarra: [00:20:41] Well, Julie Small, thank you so much for joining me. I appreciate it.

Julie Small: [00:20:45] Thank you, Ericka.

 


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